So after reading through the internet, here are the sudgestions that I found for fixing the fogging.
First, to respray the original clear coat onto the model, in a non humid environment.
Next, was everyone just saying "Buy [insert Random Company Sealer] and you won't have this problem." Sadly, if you are at the stage where you have this problem already, this... of course... is less then helpful.
Next, was to purchase Testor's Dullcoat, that it would fix the problem.
Also a sudgestion was to hit it with a Glass Varnish, then go back over later with the Testor's Dullcoat. The thought process here is that the fogging is actually a iregularity in the the model, with the dullcoat actually causing this to break the shine, and that the varnish gives it the smooth vinish back, thus fixing the problem. I wasn't so sure about that.
Lastly was to go over the areas with a watered down base coat to try and get the color back. I considered this the last repost, and something I would do only if necessary.
So, the first think I did after I realized the prolem was to attempt to cover the model with another coat of Games Workshop Purity Seal. While this did not add to the problem, it did not help either. I found that at first the results seemed to have worked, but when I came back later, the fogging was just as bad.
The first option was Fail. I will discuss the rest tomorrow.
Tuesday, June 8, 2010
Monday, June 7, 2010
Tutorial - Fixing Fogging For Fools 1
I live in the deep south. This week I felt like I was going from a sub-tropical environment to a tropical, it has rained (this means it fucking stormed to people on the west coast) every day for around an hour.
Yesterday I returned and finally put the finishing touches including weathering and final stuff i needed on two Predators and a Rhino. I then pulled out my trusty Games Workshop Purity Seal to make sure that they didn't get damaged, walked out side (because the wife will not let me spray inside) and hit them with it.
If you have done this before, you should realize what is coming next.
I walked back inside to find that various parts of my models (especially the black) portions were covered with a thin "fog" that clouded the paint on them. About a month of work down the tube.
Now, I am not giving up, and desperately won't to fix it, so for anyone else having this problem, I will be going through all of the steps that I try to fix my models. I have cruised a ton of forums on how this may or may not be done, and I feel like I'm swimming through a world of half truths and myths. I will find a way, or not.
At least you as the reader, if (when) you have this problem happen to you will know how to combat it.
However, first, let's talk about how NOT to do this.
First, don't use Armory Primer or Spray. I did for awhile, and in my opinion, they all suck. They can do worse then fog, they can actually give your models this horribal rough coat that ruins the model itself (unless you strip it).
I have been using Games Workshop Purity Seal and this is the first problem I have had with them. I would like to shake my finger at them and claim that it was all their fault, but I don't think it is.
(1) Do NOT put a varnish on when it was humid, no matter how excited you are.
(2) Shake the can. Shake it some more. Do a dance with it. Shake the can for two (2) minutes
(3) Spray a test something or other to make sure it will not fog on you. Wait 10 minute to make sure.
These things will help make sure you are not in the same position that I am in.
Sadly, if you found this article on the internet... it's too late for that, isn't it!
I will post my steps to fixing this tomorrow.
Yesterday I returned and finally put the finishing touches including weathering and final stuff i needed on two Predators and a Rhino. I then pulled out my trusty Games Workshop Purity Seal to make sure that they didn't get damaged, walked out side (because the wife will not let me spray inside) and hit them with it.
If you have done this before, you should realize what is coming next.
I walked back inside to find that various parts of my models (especially the black) portions were covered with a thin "fog" that clouded the paint on them. About a month of work down the tube.
Now, I am not giving up, and desperately won't to fix it, so for anyone else having this problem, I will be going through all of the steps that I try to fix my models. I have cruised a ton of forums on how this may or may not be done, and I feel like I'm swimming through a world of half truths and myths. I will find a way, or not.
At least you as the reader, if (when) you have this problem happen to you will know how to combat it.
However, first, let's talk about how NOT to do this.
First, don't use Armory Primer or Spray. I did for awhile, and in my opinion, they all suck. They can do worse then fog, they can actually give your models this horribal rough coat that ruins the model itself (unless you strip it).
I have been using Games Workshop Purity Seal and this is the first problem I have had with them. I would like to shake my finger at them and claim that it was all their fault, but I don't think it is.
(1) Do NOT put a varnish on when it was humid, no matter how excited you are.
(2) Shake the can. Shake it some more. Do a dance with it. Shake the can for two (2) minutes
(3) Spray a test something or other to make sure it will not fog on you. Wait 10 minute to make sure.
These things will help make sure you are not in the same position that I am in.
Sadly, if you found this article on the internet... it's too late for that, isn't it!
I will post my steps to fixing this tomorrow.
Re-Organization
I will be organizing the site some. Based on how I have been using it, and how I want to to use it, I want to organize the posts into four seperate areas.
Tactic Articles - This has to do with how to play the game. Using units, or ways to view the game. They will all start out with a Tactic: type of thread.
Tutorials - This has to do with how to for hobby related enterprises. These will be pictures of how to paint models (or at least how I paint models) and problems associated with them.
Background - This is background work on whatever army that I am working on.
Battle Reports - I am going to try and start doing some video battle reports and putting them up.... should be fun.
Tactic Articles - This has to do with how to play the game. Using units, or ways to view the game. They will all start out with a Tactic: type of thread.
Tutorials - This has to do with how to for hobby related enterprises. These will be pictures of how to paint models (or at least how I paint models) and problems associated with them.
Background - This is background work on whatever army that I am working on.
Battle Reports - I am going to try and start doing some video battle reports and putting them up.... should be fun.
Thursday, June 3, 2010
Angelus Secundas
At the close of M39 the Angels of Perdition finally finished their three thousand year crusade from Segmentium Pacificus to Ultramar. The records of their deeds throughout this time is collected in their own tomes the Angelicus Mortus.
It was there, at Ultramar that the Chapter Master received a request for aid from the distant part of Ultima Segemtium, in the Wing Stars region. Unable to assist due to complete engagement he gave the request to the Grand Master of the Angels of Perdition, Othniel. Mustering the entire Chapter, he set off immediately. Two years later, they arrived in the Wing Stars, where they would make their second home. The wars would see twenty years of of fighting to free the sector from it's malignant cancer, and the chapter was a shadow of it's strength.
It was there, at Ultramar that the Chapter Master received a request for aid from the distant part of Ultima Segemtium, in the Wing Stars region. Unable to assist due to complete engagement he gave the request to the Grand Master of the Angels of Perdition, Othniel. Mustering the entire Chapter, he set off immediately. Two years later, they arrived in the Wing Stars, where they would make their second home. The wars would see twenty years of of fighting to free the sector from it's malignant cancer, and the chapter was a shadow of it's strength.
Armored Might
No game this week, Don is out. I'm headed to Atlanta for a funeral. I have a 2100 pt tournament on the coast I am going to on the 13th of June (week and a half). I will be preping for that when I can. I would love to get some painting in, but I seem to have no time. I have a feeling that not much will get done until I'm in the new house.
On the flip side, I see a game of Spearhead in my future. I think for the campaign we are playing in, it makes a lot of sense for the fuel depo that Raziel failed to destroy has given Uglug the supplies necessary to get his motorpool started.
Captain Maltheas has a choice, he is outnumber, and outgunned. He only has a single demi-company to fight thousands or orks (there are always thousands of orks). He is trying to decide if he wants to hold his position to prevent the Orks from getting to the Mechanicus Research station, meet them in battle, or fall back and destroy the research station himself. If it wasn't for the local citizens on the planet he would simply leave and bonbard the area from planet, it is, after all, the only way to be sure. But he is an Angel of Perdition, sworn to protect the men and women of the Imperium.
On the flip side, I see a game of Spearhead in my future. I think for the campaign we are playing in, it makes a lot of sense for the fuel depo that Raziel failed to destroy has given Uglug the supplies necessary to get his motorpool started.
Captain Maltheas has a choice, he is outnumber, and outgunned. He only has a single demi-company to fight thousands or orks (there are always thousands of orks). He is trying to decide if he wants to hold his position to prevent the Orks from getting to the Mechanicus Research station, meet them in battle, or fall back and destroy the research station himself. If it wasn't for the local citizens on the planet he would simply leave and bonbard the area from planet, it is, after all, the only way to be sure. But he is an Angel of Perdition, sworn to protect the men and women of the Imperium.
Wednesday, June 2, 2010
Oath of Perdition
Fallen are We
From the Highest Tower
To the Darkest Pit
Death Stalks Us
Vengeance Guides Us
Redemption Calls Us
Fear Us
For Only Through War
May We Find Forgiveness
-Tome of Angelicus Mortus, M36
From the Highest Tower
To the Darkest Pit
Death Stalks Us
Vengeance Guides Us
Redemption Calls Us
Fear Us
For Only Through War
May We Find Forgiveness
-Tome of Angelicus Mortus, M36
Ironwing
Back... back...back the Dark Angels used to have a third formation. It only appeared in Epic, called the Ironwing. It was all of their armored might unified together. Apparently the poor dark angels can't be more creative then 'Hey, let's put like with like! Yea!"
The Lion must have been exceptionally Anal.
Anyway, I am finishing up my Ironwing at the moment, three Predators that are modular. They have all the base coats and most of the highlighting detailing is finished.
A few weeks ago I purcahsed some Mircosol and Microset and am pretty eager to try them out on my models. I'm always nevous about using decals, but often I find if I paint over them a bit, you can't really tell anyway.
Well BoLS con is coming up and I figure this is what I have left to paint.
(1) Landspeeder Storm
(4) Space Marines
(1) Thunderfire Cannon*
(5) Terminators*
(1) Landraider*
These are modular, and depends on what I get done this month. I'm actually moving away from the landraider and CC terminators and just toward the thunderfire cannon. I have a tournament that is 2100 pts in about a week and a half that I hope to use the majority painted models for.
Between waking up at 5:00 a.m. every morning to work out with the wife, and moving into the house in two weeks, I have a feeling that the next month or two is going to be a little rough.
The Lion must have been exceptionally Anal.
Anyway, I am finishing up my Ironwing at the moment, three Predators that are modular. They have all the base coats and most of the highlighting detailing is finished.
A few weeks ago I purcahsed some Mircosol and Microset and am pretty eager to try them out on my models. I'm always nevous about using decals, but often I find if I paint over them a bit, you can't really tell anyway.
Well BoLS con is coming up and I figure this is what I have left to paint.
(1) Landspeeder Storm
(4) Space Marines
(1) Thunderfire Cannon*
(5) Terminators*
(1) Landraider*
These are modular, and depends on what I get done this month. I'm actually moving away from the landraider and CC terminators and just toward the thunderfire cannon. I have a tournament that is 2100 pts in about a week and a half that I hope to use the majority painted models for.
Between waking up at 5:00 a.m. every morning to work out with the wife, and moving into the house in two weeks, I have a feeling that the next month or two is going to be a little rough.
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